They only practice what they know to be right because of what their fathers taught them. Because it is under his direction that I am here today. I am simply stating the truth as I know it. You are trying to promote a book you admittedly stated is, Not the Real Truth, In my opinion, its just a novel based on BOM. What truth are you defending??? I can't say enough how all of those involved were taken for a ride down a very unrewarding rabbit hole. Christ taught his disciples more than the taught the populace. You have overall, despite my complaints to the contrary, been more civil than most others Ive spoken to in the past. Buy the way, Christopher has called me a "Priest of Baal" in response to a blog post of mine. While I respect our country and those who sacrifice their lives, sometimes it is for the wrong reason. Criticizes the leadership The LDS church teaches we can be like the Father (or God) and is therefore compatible with the nature of the plurality of Gods. Good chooses not to associate with evil, evil despises the presence of good. Why would I think you are confronting me when you claim I am the great Korihor (whore) of the earth? Personal revelation does not play down revelation, it is in fact the most important revelation anyone can receive. He has been married 5 times and has nine children and is currently living in his previous father in laws basement. He at least claimed it was divine scripture from god and stated that it was a True Book. I personally found the Sealed Portion only a year and a half ago, about, and so I have had to learn the entire work much more quickly and it has taken its toll upon me, for awhile, before I became more comfortable with a good understanding. And the Holy Ghost has been correct. You are twisting what is good, putting it on its head, and saying it is evil in defense of a righteous God. We neither should respond to an ATTACK. The Game of Mortal Life: Understanding human Reality is the temple recommend for those who follow Christophers teachings. Can you tell me you believe I am not an enemy to the church and that I am not in apostasy, and that you accept me for who I am and what God has made of me? In fact, this unchallengeable information can help a person know and understand things that will help them find peace and understanding in what is about to happen upon this earth. (I did read about 5 of those chapters). Everything that I have testified to above has a religious connotaion to it. Members of the Mormon Church who are familiar with Nemelka tend to look upon him with disdain. I agree the Book of Mormon was inspired, but real truth? to the hardness of their hearts and blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end (a new American scripture, the Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14). shall be no priestcrafts; for, behold, He does not send one man to undo another and destroy what he has already set in motion. This guy makes no sense. Christ teaches us to turn the other cheek. Korihor would tell me to leave. Leaving the church, really? Any information will help. They find happiness in their own faith, but the rest of the world condemns them with America leading this mistrust as an excuse to fuel military aggression. There is no more purpose in it. (NOTE: If youre interested in knowing how this work has affected the lives of other people, you can review the following testimonials at. What is the purpose of the atonement? I would never reject the LDS people because I found fault in their doctrine any more than I would do so with a Catholic or even a Muslim. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. What matters more is the peace and happiness you find in it, even if it isnt what I feel about it. There are literally thousands of interpretations of the Bible, none of which are consistent or logical with the other. Fast forward 200 years and people are more ready to hear truth in a modern tongue. God will never send a man to undo what another man has done in his name. It is clear to me that we are not in Gods presence and there is no true Zion. a man was punished only for the I can acknowledge that all three were remarkable and inspired works, all three have had a massive impact on the world, but who inspired them?. However, in the spirit world they are still accountable for their choices make there. The LDS church teaches the gospel in several different levels depending on whether that person has a temple recommend. It is not real truth. If Hitler thought he was doing what was right, truly, that would mean in a sense he was a righteous man. The Christians dont want to accept the fact that they alone are responsible for what they do. When you speak of this great battle of good and evil, you are judging all those who dont believe as you do. And at that point he wasnt even a messenger. Do you have any information concerning the original sealed portion. Jesus is the Christ, son of God, atoned for our sins, broke the chains of death, was the first born human to be resurrected from the dead, has an immortal body, and will be our final judge. The true messenger today, who I know is Christopher, is the only messenger that was allowed to fully disclose his true identity in all of human history. But that is changing. In addition, when you read, you do not feel the spirit like when you read the Book O Mormon. It was removed for repairs but has since been replaced. I have looked for truth and confirmations of the Spirit more than any other person I have ever known without exception. He has also spoken about mankind's simulated reality (youtube.com/watch?v=mkNM7A6tCxQ). As D&C states, that which does not edify is of Satan. There isnt one piece of real truth in the Sealed Portion because it is based upon those 2 works. The prophets have always known more that they tell. all men were on a equal grounds. You have the agency to make your own choices and will be held accountable for those choices. You acknowledge the seal portion is not real truth and the BOM is based on deception. The length of my response is merely a byproduct of the complexity of your own writings. The articles of faith teaches us to find goodness in all things. Contribute to chinapedia/wikipedia.en development by creating an account on GitHub. So we are in agreement that those who know better are accountable. Were there other questions? I am such a woman! Why would it tear down the Mormon church? We call this understanding the Real Truth. The shooter, Jessie K., Taggart is a son of Julie Taggart one of the plaintiffs in the Chris Nemelka lawsuit against the church. Whether you are a korihor or not is really up to you to figure out. Still waiting for the 15 apostles to admit its true or say it isnt. There isnt one person I know if that understands the work as well as I do who still goes to church. :). This illusion has existed for hundreds of years and yet Christophers work comes to a near conclusion only 13 years later fully revealing the truth. act for himself save it should be Absolutely! Evil is good and good is evil. Even within the temple walls I was no closer to understanding it than anyone else. Their imperfect actions and beliefs matter less than their pure hearts. In terms of Joseph Smith, I do not think he was a pathological liar. There is no longer any hope for the people of this world. If the BOM is true, then the SP is not true because of what the BOM teaches, not to mention you also admit its not true. For their actions towards each other. Each book is a greater understanding, the Sealed Portion more than the Unsealed Portion (Book of Mormon). Maybe you are right, not everyone is equal. The arms of the Father will always be open to all who seek it! April H Nunley Given the choice between peace and life eternal, the people of Earth have been delivered. She told me they were too emotional. A normal person does not say something like that, ask any professional psychologist. What they do and believe has nothing to do with my own salvation. One side believes people should be held responsible and accountable, the other says its always someone elses fault and not mine. This guy should be locked up for good so he cant hurt any more innocent victims including his poor little children. As the game is being played, things do not progress in the game as it is supposed to be played. Even if Mark Twain had some good principles in Huckleberry Finn, its not scripture, and never claimed to be. This is all intended and what the veil is for. I agree the church teaches some beautiful values and a good way to live. He has multiple counterfeits that satisfy the desires of many different positions, but none that are pure to Fathers plan. After The Sealed Portion was published in 2004, the corrupt LDS/Mormon Church discontinued teaching its members, and the world through its missionary efforts, that there was supposed to be a sealed, greater portion to their new American scripture. . I respect the viewpoint and belief systems of others. You dont want to accept sin and evil? in the name of Christ, if these things The Autobiography of Christopher Marc Nemelka. Authority gives men the excuse to use that power to abuse and subjugate those beneath them. What does it matter if the stories are true when they teach real lessons and were truly inspired? Before he tried to quit, Christopher wanted to present whatever portion of the Real Truth he was allowed to reveal at that time. But ultimately he reveals himself by teaching that Jesus is not the Christ. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. But I dont exactly hold them blameless either. Perhaps. Obscuring the nature and duration of his indecision when he wrote his 1838-39 history, he reported that "immediately" after he returned to Harmony, he received a revelation resolving the matter and that the plates and interpreters were returned after only "a few days." . So rather than argue the surface issues and personalities of the persons involved, just look at the doctrinal teachings. You claim for yourself the right to discern the truth from untrue books, and decline the right for me discern truth from books I believe are divine. marvelousworkandawonder.com As a natural consequence, prophets and ministers are worldwide to give people what they want. And there was no poor among them, and when this was defined, it immediately says that they had established Zion! Why are we wasting time with it. You retain for yourself the right to discern and call the BOM deceptive, but get defensive when the same position is taken by others in disagreement with the Sealed Portion. In fact, baptism does not always lead to success as Im sure youve seen. That means we can ignore the God within others without repercussion because it can disrupt our personal communication with ourselves, what we really need to listen to that resonates within our hearts! Welcome to the SEALED-NOT or "It is not the Sealed Portion" web site. That He weeps, that his own tears wet his feet, because of the wickedness among us. I dont blame Lucifer, he only presents the options, we make the choices so that we are ultimately responsible. Ask The Father in the name of The Son and you will receive these things. Lies often hide behind truth and are well interwoven together. The overall gist of the simple teachings of Jesus Christ culminates in helping a person be respectful, kind, compassionate, and humble towards others. Poison who you will, but none will accept your iniquity as long as you continue to polute the human mind in this estate. He doesnt expect us to understand everything he teaches and to accept it. That is, show us real truth. I will accept that and be fine with it, even if it means I feel you are missing out on some awesome truths Ive discovered in my own personal journey. We cannot be trusted with that power. :). Theres no possible gain you could get from my current real legal name other than to root me out and find my bishop. , these members realized how important the, were to the salvation of the human race. I know whats going on. I fail to see the logic in your position. They will realize their error one day and will repent to accept Christ of course, they all will except a very very few. Agency does not relieve you of responsibility for your actions, not even the ones you didnt realize were wrong. 35 Yea, I know that God will give Even Christ himself said the greatest in the kingdom of heaven was to be like a little child. He knows more than he says and he tells us what we can handle. I will watch as the human race continues to divide itself until a unification of one heart and one mind is no longer possible. . Ive been taught by them I know whats happening in that universe. I personally love them and have enjoyed their talks over the years, but I have found a greater truth based off of their more sound teachings from Joseph Smith. It is an explanation of things as they. Yes, it is true Lucifer wants to take away our free agency and ensure everyone has the same power as our creators so he can ensure we all have the same reward. Psychopaths, since they feel they are superior, naturally want to pass their genes on so they go to the extremes of multiple partners to reproduce and since they pick out sympathetic people as their partners they know those types of partners will raise their children for them with the psychopath not needed to put forth any real effort into parenting. 2nd Nephi 2: The church works within the system and does nothing to change an obviously broken one. The church teaches gender makes people different but that they are still equal. The "Sealed Portion" authored by Nemelka is approximately 668 pages. Allot of it is disconnected. Ida Smith (a descendant of Hyrum) donated her burial plot in the Salt Lake Cemeteryto Nemelka. free, but they were all made free, They obviously live up to the moral principles taught there..Wrong! Already disillusioned with the church, he ventured into the Temple's upper room where the Twelve Apostles meet. He does not declare that without the atonement, there is no salvation physical or spiritual. Court Findings. And if the Book of Mormon is true, why are there so many gospel truths in the church that cannot be confirmed by modern revelation? This is defying authority outside of your own personal revelation. You arent allowing me to love others equally because of the claimed gospel that you teach. Unless it affects me directly, I really dont care what they do as long as they do their best to bring members of the church fulfillment and happiness. Does God require authority to act in his name? The following quotes are taken from Christopher Nemelka from his BlogTalkRadio interview with Bryce Blankenagel of "Naked Mormon Podcast Live" on 4/16/17. Upon reading The Sealed Portion with a sincere heart and real intent, many faithful LDS/Mormon members realized the deception behind their churchs leaders and doctrines. In their story, the resurrected and glorified Jesus Christ came to the ancestors of the modern native American people and taught them the fullness of the everlasting Gospel., In correlation with the New Testament teachings of Jesus, within their Book of Mormon shall be written my gospel, saith the Lamb, and my rock and salvation.. Because they look around and they see what human beings are like. Christopher Marc Nemelka Published by Worldwide United Publishing, 2005 ISBN 10: 0978526465 ISBN 13: 9780978526467 Seller: GF Books, Inc., Hawthorne, U.S.A. Nemelka claims that Smith told him that he was to finish the job Hyrum was unable to complete. Sneaky, unlawful, suspicious acts led to the so-called divine appearances and writing of the Sealed Portion. Strike Three. That the readers may know to what lengths the adversary will go, we must shine the light on the machinations involved. We may spend hours discussing the differences in policies and history, but the basic truth that never changes is. David Whitmer, Ervil Lebaron, and and Christopher Nemelka (among others) have all made this claim. And yet, still nothing about in in general conference. You dont understand the difference between real truth and normal truth of this world. But their greatest weapon isnt their military, is their belief that they are somehow justified because our God isnt their God and that selfishness to protect our own families is worth more than protecting the world. To those with whom I have shared this planet for the past 60 years, who have rejected me and the work in which I have been involved, I was chosen to be a True Messenger for the Real Illuminati. ) Yet, there is nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the intent and desires of the Real Illuminati. I wont condemn you or say you are on Lucifers side of the battle. That everyone has the potential to find the truth and to have a greater connection to our true selves (Holy Ghost) and be one with the Father and the Son. But this claim pales in comparison to Christopher Marc Nemelkas belief that he is the reincarnated Hyrum Smith, the brother of Mormonisms founder, Joseph Smith. True or not true, the stories in the Book of Mormon help you understand the principles of your church dont they? It will be their fault they chose to reject me, it will be contention that brings us to Satans playground instead of anything meaningful. This is defying authority outside of your own personal revelation. She would closely observe how I reacted so she knew what she needed to say to continue to dupe me. There was a lady just yesterday posting on the Mormon Stories Podcast group on Facebook about Nemelka, claiming that he stole JS's seer stone from the church to use to translate the sealed portion of the plates. How can they be even close to a god? Thats right, many LDS members have taken the anti-Mormon role spreading hate about a belief system they understand little about, they represent well their hate and likely fear of his work publicly. Everything that I have testified to above has a religious connotaion to it. The church suggests we stay active politically in our communities which does appear to be good, but it is also suggesting we support a system that is broken and causes endless people suffering, hunger, and abuse. Ida Smith, the great-great granddaughter of Hyrum Smith, who became convinced that Nemelka was called of God after reading The Sealed Portion, donated her plot to Nemelka. 30 Behold, the Lord hath forbidden When we realize how terrible our actions were upon this earth, we know our Heavenly Mothers were correct and that we cannot be Gods like our Heavenly Parents are. I can do no more except finish what they have asked me to do. (LogOut/ On the plot he has installed a tombstone with his website clearly prominent. :). 29 He commandeth that there I agree, Christophers books are very well written and based upon many principles from the Book of Mormon. Rather than producing more walls of text on these topics, we wanted to create a visual learning experience. I already know what you believe, Im LDS. I am not exaggerating, I am publishing a book about being the transitional target of that young woman. It would be unthinkable to me. 19 And Enoch continued his preaching in righteousness unto the people of God. I will no longer be a messenger to anyone who does not, with a sincere heart and real intent, desire to know what I know, and then, upon knowing it, fully respect and support it. are not true; and if ye shall ask again, hurr durr, tits or gtfo. In 2016, Nemelka first announced his involvement with the Real Illuminati. Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, even a Marvelous Work and a Wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. We have ancestors that we can trace back to Joseph Smith and recent forebears who converted to this new faith. I can never be sure about what I am hearing from such a person. Are the leaders of our country righteous men? You do not need agency since you are not capable of making right decisions, therefore no laws are given and you are not held accountable for your choices. I still learn things from it when talking to people like yourself. That raises the question as to why? Instead of overcoming and being friends after everything, the grudge popped up in its place. You must first Have Love, one for another, Forgive one another. Quantity: 1 Add to Basket Condition: Good. But when we communicate with our higher selves (the LDS call this the Holy Ghost), we can know all things in faith and humility. A+ Customer service! Perhaps that we are forgiven is the most powerful and meaningful joy that we can have in this life. That you should instead love them? That alone shows hypocrisy. Nemelka announced to the crowd that he was going to finish a sermon that Joseph Smith failed to finish on June 16, 1844 a message that he believes was divinely preempted by a rain storm because Smith was about to tell what really happened in his First Vision. They know with absolute certainty, though we surprise them at times, that we will use those circumstances as an excuse to commit acts against humanity. LostMormonism grew out of our noteskeeping track of all the weird and wacky things we learned about Mormon history. Because nobody follows him. manifest the truth of it unto you, Question for both of us. Doesnt really matter how Christopher wrote it, Book is not True. The psychological professionals have all claimed that none of them has ever seen a psychopath overcome their disorder and turn into a better person. How can we know we arent the ones who have fallen for this modern day prophesy of wickedness? The three books of this Trilogy will give the specific details of what this group has done to help save humanity. If you recall the Lamanites were always the majority and always fought against the Christian believer. In my verse above quoted from Moroni, he says when you RECEIVE it, that is when you ask. of flesh; for I know that cursed is The LDS as a group dont go around trying to disprove others. They didnt even read it! Can you say the same? To accomplish this, they invented, wrote, and published a new Christian narrative about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Some misconceptions here about what I meant. These verses do not mention men with priesthood authority, just men in general. I respect that you find happiness in the church, but you need to respect I find that in A Marvelous Work and a Wonder. There is a plurality of Gods, each one guides an individual human spirit. What is about to happen has not happened before. He always has been, He always will be.. A reworked version of Solomon Spauldings Manuscript Found thanks to Sydney Rigdon. The LDS faith teaches repentance and forgiveness. I therefore conclude, if the Book of Mormon and Sealed Portion were both fiction, the truths they give through this is equally valid. And yes it is true just as Christopher teaches, if we choose to be bad people during our mortal existence we will suffer immeasurably in the Spirit World just as you have stated. They were promised that no other nation would threaten or take away their freedom, the American people (who called themselves Christians) would establish their new nation, their constitution, and their government on the rock of the teachings of Jesus. Whereas Joseph Smith, Jr. was the Author and Proprietor of the 1830 Book of Mormon, I was the Author and Proprietor of the 2004 The Sealed Portion. As many many members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (AKA the Mormon church) believe that the Book of Mormon gives divine proof of Joseph Smiths calling, a similar validation is given to Nemelka by his followers. The angels may not use a physical opiate to comfort you, but they definitely will blanket you with their love., Nemelka says: I dont need my wife, my soon-to-be ex wife! They were inspired by the God of this world. He, like Smith, claimed God gave him a book(s) to write. There is no lesser glory, they are all equal but different. I don't know that it would be a "what not to do", because we each have our own spiritual journey. Christs church, for me, comes from within. Theyre gonna have the same thing. He first shook my hand in the living room of John and Lily Roh. of a record that was reported to be a translation of certain plates with the appearance of gold. I take my covenants seriously through Christ, not through the arm of flesh that administered my temple name. Friday Instagram of the Week! Mormon history is absolutely fascinating. The Bible has been the cause of much war and misery since its inception. The knowledge that I have has the power to help humans create peace among themselves, and learn things that will allow them to attain a perpetual state of human experience upon this earth. I was just reminded of what a slimy parasite Chris Nemelka is. I have never seen so many eager anti-Mormons than when people came against Christopher. He has duped some poor older woman out of moey and her grave site to sponser his develish beliefs. I was challenging everyone on these message boards to search for and find the truth in all things. Based on what we both believe, My name is Christopher Marc Nemelka. Again, I ask, what is more important, Christ as a man or the gospel he taught? Whereas Joseph Smith, Jr. was the Author and Proprietor of the 1830 Book of Mormon, I was the Author and Proprietor of the 2004 The Sealed Portion. In 1830, the Real Illuminati published a new American scripturethe Book of Mormon. Now the LDS people act the same toward Christophers work. You repeated some of it again, that the church is holding us back and not telling us everything. There are wildly different and varying purposes because each God (or human being individual) is different from that of another. The doctors told me that I needed to undergo surgery post-haste! Can you be Real Truth by Fire? If I am to be responsible, it has to be based upon what I know is right instead of what someone else thinks or claims I should know to be right. Whereas Joseph Smith, Jr. was the Author and Proprietor of the 1830, , I was the Author and Proprietor of the 2004, was published in 2004, the corrupt LDS/Mormon Church discontinued teaching its members, and the world through its missionary efforts, that there was supposed to be a. with a sincere heart and real intent, many faithful LDS/Mormon members realized the deception behind their churchs leaders and doctrines. When I say you are misguided, I mean you dont understand what real truth is. New doesnt mean true, you can throw Mien Kampf, Origin of the Species and the Communist Manifesto into that category. We have to judge ideas and beliefs in order to make decisions. 15 And the giants of the land, also, stood afar off; and there went forth a curse upon all people that fought against God; 16 And from that time forth there were wars and bloodshed among them; but the Lord came and dwelt with his people, and they dwelt in righteousness. Everything that I have testified to above has a religious connotaion to it. I admit, that this life is hard and the choices tough. This simple gospelthe fullness of the everlasting Gospel of Jesus Christis fully revealed in the New Testament book of Matthew, chapters 5, 6, and 7 and reintroduced word for word in the, Had the early American Christians realized the importance of these simple and basic principles, and had they established their laws and government on these, the United States of America would have been what the.